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if i had to answer this i suppose i would say im not sure which one i believe, i have always wondered why the universe is so huge and always wondered what its role is and how it affects us.. im always fascinated when i look up at the sky and think to myself i feel so small in such a huge universe a sought of cold isolated feeling is what i experience and then i think, i wonder why this planet came to support life after all it was supposedly all happened by chance.. dont get me wrong im no scientist but i think i need more convincing regarding evolution.. can anyone help regarding these questions
A person can believe in evolution, and the Bible.
Just because you believe in evolution doesn't mean you don't believe in God.
Read this link it shows how Genesis the first two chapters is actually in harmony with an evolutionary process.
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1999/PSCF12-99Held.html
Edited by - D wiltshire on 12 October 2002 0:59:46
last night, after my post regarding ray franz comments of bill bowen's posted statements, i received a good number of email and phone calls.
one item consistently surfaced regarding ray's assignment to write the chapter in the book, organization for kingdom preaching and disciple-making, by the title of safeguarding the cleanness of the congregation.
in the chapter, the "two witness" rule was outlined.
Amazing,
Thanks for the up date.
Some have asked why Ray Franz does not post this himself on the Internet rather than letting me post on his behalf.
I think the reason why Ray won't post is that there are some who will not treat him well, being that he was at one time a GB member. While many do respect him for his stand I'm sure some would not do so.
here is the current list of former (some present) elders .
for over a year i lurked as an elder on h2o and this board.
for some time i feared i was the most evil appointed servant in the history of the organization for lurking here.
Hi I was an elder I think about 13, or 14 years went to Bethel in !974-1976 (left on the Mayflower as they say).
I haven't posted much lately, but enjoy many threads here.
false prophet??
definition: individuals and organizations proclaiming messages that they attribute to a superhuman source but that do not originate with the true god and are not in harmony with his revealed will.***********.
more from the reasoning book on what to say at the doors when some says they are false prophets:.
It almost seems like the writter of that bit in the 03/22/93 Awake was going thru a little discomfort in writting that paragragh.
I can't beleive it I actually beleive that shit.
false prophet??
definition: individuals and organizations proclaiming messages that they attribute to a superhuman source but that do not originate with the true god and are not in harmony with his revealed will.***********.
more from the reasoning book on what to say at the doors when some says they are false prophets:.
*** rs 137 False Prophets ***
If Someone Says
My minister said that Jehovahs Witnesses are the false prophets
You might reply: May I ask, Did he show you anything in the Bible that describes what we believe or do and that says people of that sort would be false prophets? . . . May I show you how the Bible describes false prophets?
And as the JW turns to Deut. 18 and reads discription to show what a false prophet is, we swiftly reads the part about failed predictions, where he feels a bit uncomfortable. Instead focuses on speaking in Jehovah's name which is what being a JW is all about.
Or you could say: Im sure youll agree that specific evidence should back up such a serious charge. Did your minister mention any specific examples? (If householder refers to some claimed predictions that did not come to pass, use material on page 134, and from the bottom of page 135 to the top of 137.)
The Society is so cleaver here in their use of the word "claimed" making it look like the never made a prediction.And of coarse the average JW has not read any older publications so in his mind any "claim" is just lies.
Another possibility: Im sure that if someone accused you of something similar, you would welcome the opportunity at least to explain your position or point of view, wouldnt you? . . . So may I show you from the Bible . . . ?Of coarse if the householder had hard proof by references to the WT publication they would have no further discussion and the JW would leave in a huff mumbling under his breath (appostate?? evil?? satan?? let me get out of here??)
false prophet??
definition: individuals and organizations proclaiming messages that they attribute to a superhuman source but that do not originate with the true god and are not in harmony with his revealed will.***********.
more from the reasoning book on what to say at the doors when some says they are false prophets:.
The WT was cleaver false prophet because the hid it from every one that they were working for the UN as a NGO and DPI.
agent says longo confessed
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news/103364615383280.xml
clegg said he asked longo why.
I hope the FBI does some real serious investigation of the WT they are a dangereous religion!
false prophet??
definition: individuals and organizations proclaiming messages that they attribute to a superhuman source but that do not originate with the true god and are not in harmony with his revealed will.***********.
more from the reasoning book on what to say at the doors when some says they are false prophets:.
False prophet??
the allegations of sexual abuse against at least one child and subsequent attempts to cover over the crime made against theodore jarcacz are extremely serious.
they have of course, yet to be proved one way or the other and theo jaracz has the right of proper representation both outside and within the walls of the wt, and should be allowed to defend himself against these accusations.
many persons who have in the past been accused of 'gross sins' become victim of an investigation by elders.
HS,
Good thread!
I call the number for wt response to the media and asked them if they were conducting an investigation of Theodore J. and they ask me what media I represented, and when I said I didn't represent the media but just want to know if they were conducting an investigation, they refused to answer, said this is for media only, and told me good bye.
i have long considered a lawsuit against the watchtower organization.
i realize that i am not the only one.
there are now presently many who are seriously considering it, and some who are actively pursuing it.
Daisy,
I hope that these lawyer are on the up and up. I would hate to see someone scammed out of money.
You see after being misled by the WT, it has taught me very well not to just trust people.
But we can't go around never trusting we just need to becareful and keep our eyes open for trickery.
